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Where did you learn to make bread?
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I learned how to make bread by watching others make bread, by absorbing the process. Making bread for Semilla was the first time I took on the full process of bread making on a daily basis. Before that, I had really only baked at home, but it was something I really wanted to learn, so I forced myself to create a menu that included it. The same is true at Isabela, where we make both our sourdough and our brioche for our burger and for some dessert sets.
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What is your relationship with your levain?
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My relationship with my levain is a combative one. Mainly because our kitchen fluctuates in temperature so incredibly much during the summer. Even when we leave all the equipment off, the temperature in the kitchen can rise to 105 degrees. That affects the levain because now the yeast is super active. Same, but opposite in the winter when the kitchen drops to freezing temperatures.Â
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I’d like to say we have had this levain for 40 years, which a lot of bakers are able to say, but we have killed our levain one too many times than I would like to admit. Our current levain is coming from Vitsky Bakery in Wassaic. She has been my recent 911 for levain revival.Â
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We are constantly trying to find different places in the kitchen for the levain to live, but it's one of those things that we don’t have a solid system for yet. Due to the fluctuations of mentioned, we are constantly needing to adapt where we feed it, how we feed it, and where we store it..particularly overnight. It is a work in progress to say the least.
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What do you look for in a good loaf of bread?
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I think everybody is in love with a beautiful crumb, particularly with naturally leavened breads. When you get that mixture of small holes and big holes, you know that levain was super active and doing the right thing and the yeast was happy. So definitely a good crumb.Â
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I also like my sourdough to be rather moist in the center and I think our guests really love that high level of hydration about our sourdough as well. Commercially made breads are somewhere in the 60-70% range in hydration which gives you a crumb that is on the dryer side. This is fine for a lot of things, but I personally like a crumb that is crystallized with big holes. One that pulls apart and is thoroughly caramelized on the outside, not burnt, but with a nice crust. And not so much crust that it is going to ruin the roof of your mouth.
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I'm also looking at the fish eyes on the outside of the bread, which are all those tiny bubbles. Essentially as the bread was baking that bubble really wanted to burst through the crust of the bread and it just got stuck in time, forming a hole there as the bread seized up and started caramelizing.Â
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Yeah, so a nice open crumb that is crystallized, a nice crust on the outside that is not burnt or super thick, and then just beautiful fish eyes throughout the loaf. All of those things are what I look for in a quality loaf of bread. Our bread at Isabela hasn't fully achieved this to my standards yet, it is an ever evolving progress.
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